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Breaking Down The Lie of Trump and Charlottesville

Breaking Down The Lie of Trump and Charlottesville

We have heard since Trump came down the escalator and announced his intent to run for president, that he was a racist, a white nationalist, but is any of this true?

All Mexicans Are Rapist And Criminals

When Trump came down the escalator and announced that he was going to run for the office of president, he said in his speech:

When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. And now they are beating us economically. They are not our friend, believe me. But they’re killing us economically.

The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else’s problems.

Thank you. It’s true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting. And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense. They’re sending us not the right people.

It’s coming from more than Mexico. It’s coming from all over South and Latin America, and it’s coming probably— probably— from the Middle East. But we don’t know. Because we have no protection and we have no competence, we don’t know what’s happening. And it’s got to stop and it’s got to stop fast.

We never hear that he said “some I assume are good people, only that he said that all are rapist, but he never said such a thing. In the 80’s Cuba did the same thing, while many of the Cubans that came were good people, Cuba did open its prisons and sent their criminals as well, so is stating this fact saying that all Cuba sent were criminals? Of course not, but the left will twist it this way.

Trump was referring to illegal aliens coming over the U.S.-Mexico border who commit additional crimes, such as rape. We have seen case after case where illegals commit crimes, then run back to Mexico, many times returning to repeat crimes again.

Yet the left and the press has pushed time after time that what Trump said was racist, but Trump has now multiple times clarified that he thinks many good people come from Mexico, but many bad ones as well.

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

~Joseph Goebbels

Trump Said White Supremacist In Charlottesville Are Fine People

The other common complaint from the left is that President Trump said White Supremacist and White Nationalist are fine people, but did he really say this?

After the protest in Charlotsville, where a woman was struck by a vehicle and killed, all over protests and counter protests over removing a statue of Robert E. Lee and renaming a park, there were four parties that showed up.

The first were the people the people showing up saying they did not want to see our history erased, they wanted to keep the statue and the name of the park as it was. There was another group that found the statue and park name offensive they showed up to counter protest, something Americans have done for years. But these two groups caused little or no problems, it was the other two groups that caused all the issues.

The problems came from the KKK members, alt-right white supremacist that claimed they were showing up because the white culture was under assault. Showing up that day were the likes of David Duke, Richard Spenser, and other radicals, they and the radical right showed up in riot gear, bats and other equipment set up and ready to fight.

In counter to them Antifa showed up, they also came in riot gear ready to fight back, this was something neither the mayor nor the police was ready for, they, in the end, were overwhelmed due to a lack of planning to respond to these two groups.

The press has only focused on these two groups, but did Trump? Let’s look at what he said in response to the violence the happened that day:

QUESTION: What did you (inaudible)?
TRUMP: As I said on — remember this — Saturday, we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America. And when I went on from there. Now, here’s the thing. As to — excuse me — excuse me — take it nice and easy. Here’s the thing. When I make a statement, I like to be correct. I want the facts. This event just happened. In fact, a lot of the event didn’t even happen yet, as we were speaking. This event just happened. Before I make a statement, I need the facts. So I don’t want to rush into a statement. So making the statement when I made it was excellent. In fact, the young woman who I hear is a fantastic young woman, and it was on NBC, her mother wrote me and said through, I guess, Twitter, social media, the nicest things and I very much appreciate that. I hear she was a fine, a really — actually, an incredible young woman. But her mother on Twitter thanked me for what I said. And honestly, if the press were not fake and if it was honest, the press would have said what I said was very nice. But unlike you and unlike — excuse me — unlike you and unlike the media, before I make a statement, I like to know the facts.
TRUMP: Go ahead.
QUESTION: Do you think that the — what you call the alt-left is the same as neo-Nazis?
TRUMP: Those people — all of those people — excuse me. I’ve condemned neo-Nazis. I’ve condemned many different groups. But not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists, by any stretch. Those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue, Robert E. Lee. And you take a look at some of the groups and you see — and you’d know it if you were honest reporters, which in many cases you’re not, but many of those people were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. So this week it’s Robert E. Lee. I noticed that Stonewall Jackson’s coming down. I wonder, is it George Washington next week? And is it Thomas Jefferson the week after? You know, you all — you really do have to ask yourself, where does it stop? But they were there to protest — excuse me. You take a look, the night before, they were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee.
QUESTION: Should the statue of Robert E. Lee stay up?
TRUMP: I would say that’s up to a local town, community, or the federal government, depending on where it is located.
QUESTION: Are you against the Confederacy?
QUESTION: How concerned are you about race relations in America? And do you think things have gotten worse or better since you took office?
TRUMP: I think they’ve gotten better or the same — look, they’ve been frayed for a long time. And you can ask President Obama about that because he’d make speeches about it. But I believe that the fact that I brought in — it will be soon, millions of jobs, you see where companies are moving back into our country, I think that’s going to have a tremendous positive impact on race relations. We have companies coming back into our country. We have two car companies that just announced. We have Foxconn in Wisconsin just announce. We have many companies I say pouring back into the country. I think that’s going to have a huge, positive impact on race relations. You know why? It’s jobs. What people want now, they want jobs. They want great jobs with good pay. And when they have that, you watch how race relations will be. And I’ll tell you, we’re spending a lot of money on the inner cities. We’re going to fix — we’re fixing the inner cities. We’re doing far more than anybody’s done with respect to the inner cities. It’s a priority for me. And it’s very important.

QUESTION: What did you (inaudible)?
TRUMP: As I said on — remember this — Saturday, we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America. And when I went on from there. Now, here’s the thing. As to — excuse me — excuse me — take it nice and easy. Here’s the thing. When I make a statement, I like to be correct. I want the facts. This event just happened. In fact, a lot of the event didn’t even happen yet, as we were speaking. This event just happened. Before I make a statement, I need the facts. So I don’t want to rush into a statement. So making the statement when I made it was excellent. In fact, the young woman who I hear is a fantastic young woman, and it was on NBC, her mother wrote me and said through, I guess, Twitter, social media, the nicest things and I very much appreciate that. I hear she was a fine, a really — actually, an incredible young woman. But her mother on Twitter thanked me for what I said. And honestly, if the press were not fake and if it was honest, the press would have said what I said was very nice. But unlike you and unlike — excuse me — unlike you and unlike the media, before I make a statement, I like to know the facts.
TRUMP: Go ahead.
QUESTION: Do you think that the — what you call the alt-left is the same as neo-Nazis?
TRUMP: Those people — all of those people — excuse me. I’ve condemned neo-Nazis. I’ve condemned many different groups. But not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists, by any stretch. Those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue, Robert E. Lee. And you take a look at some of the groups and you see — and you’d know it if you were honest reporters, which in many cases you’re not, but many of those people were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. So this week it’s Robert E. Lee. I noticed that Stonewall Jackson’s coming down. I wonder, is it George Washington next week? And is it Thomas Jefferson the week after? You know, you all — you really do have to ask yourself, where does it stop? But they were there to protest — excuse me. You take a look, the night before, they were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee.
QUESTION: Should the statue of Robert E. Lee stay up?
TRUMP: I would say that’s up to a local town, community, or the federal government, depending on where it is located.
QUESTION: Are you against the Confederacy?
QUESTION: How concerned are you about race relations in America? And do you think things have gotten worse or better since you took office?
TRUMP: I think they’ve gotten better or the same — look, they’ve been frayed for a long time. And you can ask President Obama about that because he’d make speeches about it. But I believe that the fact that I brought in — it will be soon, millions of jobs, you see where companies are moving back into our country, I think that’s going to have a tremendous positive impact on race relations. We have companies coming back into our country. We have two car companies that just announced. We have Foxconn in Wisconsin just announce. We have many companies I say pouring back into the country. I think that’s going to have a huge, positive impact on race relations. You know why? It’s jobs. What people want now, they want jobs. They want great jobs with good pay. And when they have that, you watch how race relations will be. And I’ll tell you, we’re spending a lot of money on the inner cities. We’re going to fix — we’re fixing the inner cities. We’re doing far more than anybody’s done with respect to the inner cities. It’s a priority for me. And it’s very important.
QUESTION: Mr. President, are you putting what you’re calling the alt-left and white supremacists on the same moral plane
TRUMP: I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this. You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch. But there is another side. There was a group on this side; you can call them the left. You’ve just called them the left — that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.
QUESTION: … on both sides, sir?
QUESTION: You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are…
TRUMP: Well, I do think there’s blame — yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. You look at — you look at both sides. I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either.
TRUMP: And — and — and if you reported it accurately, you would say (inaudible).
QUESTION: (inaudible) started this (inaudible) Charlottesville. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest…
TRUMP: Excuse me, excuse me. (inaudible) themselves (inaudible) and you have some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group — excuse me, excuse me — I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.
QUESTION: George Washington and Robert E. Lee are not the same (inaudible)…
TRUMP: George Washington was a slave owner. Was George Washington a slave owner? So, will George Washington now lose his status? Are we going to take down — excuse me — are we going to take down — are we going to take down statues to George Washington?
TRUMP: How about Thomas Jefferson? What do you think of Thomas Jefferson? You like him?
TRUMP: OK. Good. Are we going to take down the statue? Because he was a major slave owner. Now, are we going to take down his statue? So you know what? It’s fine. You’re changing history. You’re changing culture. And you had people, and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. OK? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people, but you also had troublemakers and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats. You’ve got — you had a lot of bad — you had a lot of bad people in the other group…
QUESTION: … treated unfairly (inaudible) you were saying. You were saying the press has treated white nationalists unfairly? (inaudible) understand what you’re saying.
TRUMP: No, no. There were people in that rally, and I looked the night before. If you look, they were people protesting very quietly the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. I’m sure in that group there were some bad ones. The following day, it looked like they had some rough, bad people — neo-Nazis, white nationalists, whatever you want to call them. But you had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest and very legally protest, because you know — I don’t know if you know, they had a permit. The other group didn’t have a permit. So, I only tell you this, there are two sides to a story. I thought what took place was a horrible moment for our country, a horrible moment. But there are two sides to the country (sic). Does anybody have a final — doesn’t anybody have a — you have an infrastructure…
QUESTION: Mr. President, have you spoken to the family — have you spoken to the family of the victim of the car…
TRUMP: … I’ll be reaching out. I’ll be reaching out.
QUESTION: When will you be reaching out?
TRUMP: I was very — I thought that the statement put out — the mother’s statement I thought was a beautiful statement. I must tell you, I was — it was something that I really appreciated. I thought it was terrific. And really, under the — under the kind of stress that she’s under and the heartache that she’s under, I thought putting out that statement to me was really something I won’t forget. Thank you all very much. Thank you. Thank you.

There were some questions not pertinent to Charlottesville, I omitted those, but if you wish to read the whole transcript they have it here.

There are a couple of things here that totally dispels what the press and others are telling us, like Biden in the clip below when asked about this.

Biden here lied, so has the press, Trump specifically stated that Trump said the Neo-Nazi’s and White Supremicist were fine people, but Trump specifically stated:

As I said on — remember this — Saturday, we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence….

The press was trying to press him to condemn all, Trump correctly replied:

unlike you and unlike — excuse me — unlike you and unlike the media, before I make a statement, I like to know the facts.

He then went on to say when the press said McCain said it was the Alt-Right:

But when you say the “alt- right,” define “alt-right” to me. You define it, go ahead.

He said before he had the facts or gave a statement he wanted the definition of the term defined. The press tries to say anyone right of Progressiveness is alt-right, Trump was correct to demand a definition, the questioner refused to give one.

The press then tried to say the alt-left was the same as Neo-Nazi’s, this was an attempt by the left to try to imply that all Trump supporters were in this catigory and get Trump to not condemn them, Trump replied:

Those people — all of those people — excuse me. I’ve condemned Neo-Nazis. I’ve condemned many different groups. But not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists, by any stretch. Those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue, Robert E. Lee. So — excuse me. And you take a look at some of the groups and you see — and you’d know it if you were honest reporters, which in many cases you’re not, but many of those people were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. So this week it’s Robert E. Lee. I noticed that Stonewall Jackson’s coming down. I wonder, is it George Washington next week? And is it Thomas Jefferson the week after? You know, you all — you really do have to ask yourself, where does it stop? But they were there to protest — excuse me. You take a look, the night before, they were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee.

Here Trump destroys the claim that he said White Supremacist or neo-nazis were fine people, he specifically comes out and condemns them, then speaks of the other two groups that showed up, yet the press refuses to speak of this.

It did not stop here, the press then asked, “Mr. President, are you putting what you’re calling the alt-left and white supremacists on the same moral plane?” Trump replied:

I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this. You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch. But there is another side. There was a group on this side, you can call them the left. You’ve just called them the left — that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.

Here Trump speaks of the first group, he specifically condemns both the white supremacist, and Antifa, yet this is never heard, out of this only that there are fine people on both sides, but as we showed earlier, he specified who those people were. He then goes on and specifically breaks down who he was speaking about:

Excuse me, excuse me. (inaudible) themselves (inaudible) and you have some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group — excuse me, excuse me — I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.

He finished up once more clarifying who were the good actors and who were the bad:

Excuse me, excuse me. (inaudible) themselves (inaudible) and you have some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group — excuse me, excuse me — I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.

Mr. Biden, I must ask, why is it that you and the press keep ignoring this? If you are going to omit parts to paint another picture, I will tell you what my mother used to say, “Lying by omission is no different then outright lying, you are doing the same thing by presenting a half-truth!”

When Trump says the press is the enemy of the people, they are, when you try to omit part of a speech to deliver something to the American people other then what was stated, and stir up problems, you are acting no different then the Russians you scream about, who like you are pushing disinformation.

Next time someone tries to tell you this lie, you can now show them this.

About The Author

Timothy Benton

Student of history, a journalist for the last 2 years. Specialize in Middle East History, more specifically modern history with the Israeli Palestinian conflict. Also, a political commentator has been a lifetime fan of politics.

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